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how he got on mother
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Posted:
September 23, 2006.
Jason Segel has gotten a bit of an odd specialty in his Hollywood career –
he has become an integral part of some of the most interesting TV
ensembles of recent years. His first meshing was on the cult favorite
Freaks and Geeks – in which he played the burnout Nick; a man
passionate about two things – rock music and smart, beautiful Lindsay Weir
(Linda Cardellini). His character had a star-making moment when he
serenaded her with a self-written rock ballad called
“Lady L.”
Despite wonderful coverage, Freaks and Geeks didn’t quite last a
season. Segel then took a recurring role on another
acclaimed, short-lived series, Undeclared, as a jealous
printer whose girlfriend has left him to go away to college. Things started turning
around… ratings-wise, when Segel became a recurring character on the most
popular show on TV – CSI: Crime Scene Investigation.
However he has really hit paydirt with his new series.
How I Met Your Mother has gained critical
acclaim while helping to shore up the ratings for CBS’s Monday
night comedy
block in a post-Raymond world. Working with a talented cast that
includes Josh Radnor, Cobie Smulders, Neil Patrick Harris and Alyson
Hannigan, Segel plays Marshall, the long-time best
friend and roommate of main
character Ted Mosby (Radnor). At the end of the first year,
Marshall
broke up with his fiancée Lily (Hannigan) after nine years. Much of the
new season will revolve around how the two adjust to life apart.
On
the day of the show's second season premiere, Jason was nice enough to call us
and tell us a bit about his career and what to expect coming up on the
show.
Your first movie role
was in one of my favorite guilty pleasure movies
Can’t Hardly Wait – granted you only had one line.
(laughs)
Oh, yeah, that’s right.
Early on in your career
you also appeared in the movies
Dead Man on Campus and SLC Punk. How did you first get
involved in acting and in the movies?
Oh, man, you know what? I got really lucky. I was playing basketball in
high school. I decided to put on “The Zoo Story” by Edward Albee, just on
my own. After the performance, the head of the acting department came up
and said, “You know, I think you should maybe think of quitting basketball
and give this a try.” I told him I thought he was crazy. We had just won
the state championship and I’m so tall. (laughs) He said, “Well,
do me a favor. Just come do this mock audition workshop I’m putting on.”
So, I showed up at this thing and went in and read for him and some
woman. I had no idea who she was. I thought it was maybe another
teacher. It turned out that she was president of casting at
Paramount.
That pretty much got me started. After that they put me in my first movie
– which was actually Dead Man on Campus.
Dead Man on Campus also had two of your future series co-stars and
TV love
interests in the cast: Linda Cardellini and Alyson Hannigan. Did you get to
know them in the movie or more when you really got involved in the series
with them?
That’s right, yeah. I didn’t, no. Linda and I sort of saw each other for
the first time three years later. I remembered her and she didn’t quite
remember who I was. (laughs) Alyson was the exact same
phenomenon. She didn’t remember me at all. I guess that means I’ve grown
up.
Even though it did not
quite last a season, your first series,
Freaks and Geeks became a real cult success since it was
on the air. What was it like to work on and were you surprised by how it
has stayed popular years after its run?
Yeah. That really changed my life. That was, in a lot of ways, the start
of my career. I met Judd Apatow doing Freaks and Geeks. Judd
taught me how to write and I’ve written quite a bit since then. I’m on my
third script, now. One of them is with Judd at Universal, hopefully
to be done this hiatus. We did that together, and then we did
Undeclared, and we did a pilot together that didn’t get picked up,
called North
Hollywood. We
just finished a movie called Knocked Up. So, I think more than
anything, it was meeting Judd during that period that changed my life.
He’s been a real mentor to me.
We actually have
interviews with a couple of your former costars on
Freaks – Linda Cardellini and John Francis Daley.
Oh, cool.
They’ve obviously
worked a lot since the show went off, as did several other cast members
like James Franco, Seth Rogen, Busy Philipps and yourself. When you were
on the show, did you realize you were in with an unusually talented crowd?
You know, we all actually had a sense that we were surrounded by great
people. I think that’s maybe what Judd does the best. He knows how to
spot people. We started out improv-ing for about a month before we
started shooting on Freaks and Geeks. Just watching everybody
improv and how perfectly they were their characters, I think we all had a
sense we were going to do something great. We also had a sense it might
be a little bit too sad (chuckles) for NBC. We could tell it was
getting cancelled, because it started out with the craft service table
filled with lavish deli platters, and then by about mid-season it was down
to a box of Corn Pops. (laughs) We had a sense that it might be
going off the air.
Are you ever at a party
and have someone ask you to sing “Lady L?”
(laughs)
No, but I had a meeting with Quentin Tarentino about maybe
two months ago for his new movie. I didn’t get the part, but, it was
amazing – he walked into the room singing “Lady L.” That was all I
needed. I didn’t need to get the part after that.
After
Freaks you had a
recurring role on Undeclared, which had a lot of the same people
behind it, also got critical raves and lasted even less time. Did you
ever stop and think what do I have to do to get a hit here?
Yeah, well, you know, I’ve felt that way several times in my career. It’s
always a very scary feeling. But then, what was really cool was when this
show came along – How I Met Your Mother – there was something
different about it. I’m used to feeling like the underdog. Especially
when I’m working with Judd. That’s the tone of our creative
collaboration. But this show, from the beginning, we had this sense that
this is really straightforward and simple and good. It just ended up
working. Just like Freaks and Geeks. The five of us on How I
Met Your Mother really hit it off.
How I Met Your Mother is your first traditional five camera sitcom.
All of your previous things had been single camera, I believe. How is it
different working like that? Do you enjoy it more performing with a live
audience?
Well, you know our show is unique in that it’s multi-camera, but we have
no audience…
Oh, really?
Yeah, so we rehearse on Monday and Tuesday, and then we shoot on Wednesday
through Friday with just the crew laughing, as opposed to an audience.
So, it’s a bit of an amalgam between the two. We get the luxury of being
able to do take after take and get things right. But also, there is a bit
of the excitement, because the crew is allowed to laugh. We have a good
time.
Neil Patrick Harris and
Alyson Hannigan are all actors who have been around in different good
roles over the years. This show is the first real big breaks for Josh
Radnor and Cobie Smulders. What is the ensemble like to work with?
Like I said, there was this strange chemistry between the five of us,
right from the beginning. I think we met at a barbeque, [it] was the
first time the five of us met. Alyson was there for my screen
test. I read against her. Within I’d say a couple of minutes of starting
the scene, we had gone off-book and sort of started improv-ing. It was so
funny and so natural and I just knew we would make a great team. Then
when we met the other three – something about it just felt right. It was
very easy from the beginning.
As the new season is
starting Marshall is
dealing with a problem that all too many of us guys have had – losing the
woman you love to funk legend George Clinton…
That’s right. (laughs)
How do you think he’ll
deal with the break-up with Lily and potentially getting back together?
You know, Marshall is single for the first time as an adult, really. He
had been with Lily for nine years. He’s learning a lot of things for the
first time, but my favorite comic tone is pathetic and single.
(laughs) I just think it’s funny. Because, like you said, it’s maybe
the most universal experience there is; this feeling that you’re never
going to find somebody. So, it’s been really fun. The writing has
really, really picked up this season. I think we’re going to come in
strong. They’ve just given me great things to do.
So how long do you
think that Marshall
will be able to stay a slightly left-leaning environmentalist while
working with Barney and his neo-con crowd?
Yeah, no kidding. I have a hunch that Marshall will never switch
over to the dark side, because he is just a total innocent.
Actually, my character is based on Craig Thomas, who is one of our
producers. Josh Radnor is based on Carter Bays, another producer.
Craig is still just idealistic to the core and wide-eyed, so I have
a hunch Marshall sustains that, as well.
I interviewed with Josh
in the middle of the last season.
At the time, he said the writers
told him they really
liked Ted and Robin as a couple. They were a little sorry they painted themselves into
a corner by saying at the end of the first episode that
they
would not get together. Now, that they have hooked up
on the show, do you think they
will have to break them up again or do you think the
writers will try and spin that
original idea?
Yeah, you know, I don’t know. Their chemistry is so great. I think they
work great as a couple. But, you know, we don’t really know what’s going
to happen until Friday. (laughs) So, I think we feel the same way
that hopefully the audience does. We’re dying to know who the mother is.
I saw that they had set this precedent already that they wouldn’t end up
together, but who knows? They’re pretty creative and clever on our show.
Do you think that if
it’s not Robin that we’ll ever meet the mother, or she’ll just be one of
those classic unseen TV characters like Bob Sakamato or Vera?
(laughs)
Right. Well, that could very well be. I’ve always had
this hunch that when
Carter
Bays,
who Josh’s character is based on, meets his woman, we’ll probably get
closer to Ted’s character meeting his.
Maybe it’ll be the
slutty pumpkin…
(laughs)
You know, I’ve always thought that would be an amazing call
back, if it ended up being the slutty pumpkin.
So where do you think
the pineapple came from, anyway?
Now, that’s a good question. We’ve had a lot of debate about that. All I
know is that I ate it at the end of the episode. That was a scene that
never met the cut. But, who knows? It’s a mystery.
Okay, let’s get serious
here. Who is really Ted’s best friend – Marshall or Barney?
Oh, there’s no question, it’s
Marshall.
We all put up with Barney as best we can, but, no, it’s definitely Ted and
Marshall to the end.
Neil Patrick Harris is
very funny in the role, but very different than the way we remember him in
Doogie
Houser. Do you think he’s trying to stretch out and change his image?
You know, more than that being a concerted effort… when Barney was first
written on the page, he was intended to be this sort of slobbish,
overweight guy. So, Neil came in and did this version of Barney, which I
just think is so interesting and great. More than him making any effort
to try to change his image, I think he’s just a really diverse and
talented performer. We just haven’t seen him like this before, but it’s
well within his grasp. He’s a talented guy.
Have you ever mentioned
to Craig and Carter that some of the story that older Ted is telling may
be a little inappropriate for his kids?
(laughs)
Yeah. We’ve thought about that. But, maybe in the future
society’s values have changed.
Josh told me he would
never be friends with someone who would do the “Have you met Ted” trick.
Have you ever done it or had it done to you?
I
haven’t, no, but I don’t think it’s that bad a start. There you are, now
you know each other’s names… And you’re off… I think it’s a pretty good
set up.
How weird was it when
you hit the point in your career where people start to recognize you on
the streets?
You know, we got a little taste of it when the Freaks and Geeks
DVDs came out. There was a little resurgence of people having seen the
show. But this is – it’s getting more and more noticeable for the first
time. Like in restaurants or things like that, people will come up to the
table. But, I sort of love it. (laughs) You’re doing the job so
that people will enjoy it and like your work, so I welcome it.
I’ve only seen a rough
cut of the season premiere – which ends up with Lily looking in the bar at
you but not going in… Without giving up any real big secrets, what can we
expect from the new season?
Well, I think you’ll see Lily and Marshall trying to coexist during this
very, very awkward time – which has also been fun to film. You’ll see
Barney take Marshall out on an adventure to meet women – which, as you can
imagine, turns out disastrous. And you’ll see Ted Mosby be an architect…
Oh, wow, he’s actually
working…
Yeah, that’s right. There’s a lot of really interesting stuff coming up.
Do you have any ideas
for the show that you’d love to see them do – either about
Marshall’s
character or more generally?
I
think they should really let
Marshall
go out there and date. (laughs) Like I said, I think it’s the
funniest area – the guy haplessly out there trying to date. But, I’ve
been so thrilled with the scripts that have come in so far this season.
We’re on episode seven now, and they’ve all just been brilliant, so I’m
thrilled.
Most of your roles have
been comic, although certainly
Freaks and Geeks and
Undeclared had their serious parts, as well. You were also a
recurring character in CSI for a while. How different was that,
doing straight drama? Because that certainly isn’t a light-hearted show…
Luckily, I think that was one of the reasons that I was cast – to bring a
little bit of levity in the scenes that I had. But, it was intense.
Before I showed up to film, I had to go down to the crime lab and learn
fingerprinting techniques and look at crime scene photos. Judd never made me look at people slipping on bananas or anything
like that. (laughs) So, that was a change. But, you know, to me,
it’s all about being natural. You add funny on top of that for a comedy,
but besides that it’s just show up and be natural. So I tried to do the
same on CSI. That show was a blast. I was very honored they had
me.
Ideally, how would you
like for people to see your career?
As
diverse and as positive. Diversity, I think, is the key. I look at
somebody like Peter Sellers, who was just one of the amazing, amazing
character actors. Being There couldn’t be further from Pink
Panther. I’m always in awe of that. Also, you do have a choice over
what material you do, certainly as you progress in your career. I’d like
to choose things that at least speak to something that I think is
relevant. That’s always when I act the best, when I connect to it in some
way. When it’s frivolous, I show up and do it and do my best, but… Even
something as simple as trying to be single, at least you can hook into and
try to express something that anyone can relate to.
Are there any
misconceptions you’d like to clear up?
No. I think, sadly, it’s all true. (laughs) I am
this tall. And I’m better looking in person.
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