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Jada Pinkett Smith

Jada Pinkett Smith

Channels Her Inner Hippo and More

by Brad Balfour

Copyright ©2012 PopEntertainment.com.  All rights reserved.  Posted: June 12, 2012. 

As the rail-thin Jada Pinkett Smith bounds into the Waldorf Astoria suite for a friendly chat about life and family, she exudes energy and an intensity that makes this petite 40 year-old actress a lot bigger in the chair than she seems.

Opening at Cannes Film Festival 2012Madagascar 3: Europeís Most Wanted Ė the third installment of the billion-dollar franchise Ė stars Central Park Zoo refugees Alex the lion (Ben Stiller), Marty the zebra (Chris Rock), Gloria the hippo (Pinkett Smith) and Melman the giraffe (David Schwimmer) who are determined to return to New York City.  

Leaving Africa behind, they detour to Monte Carlo on a hunt for the penguins and chimps that had left them stranded. 

After their pals break the bank of a local casino, the animals are soon discovered by dogged French animal control officer Capitaine Chantel DuBois (Frances McDormand) who doesnít appreciate these foreigners running wild in her city and is thrilled by the idea of hunting her first lion! 

Once theyíve surfaced, quite literally, in Europe Ė the Zoosters hide out in a down-and-out traveling circus where they plan to reinvent it without humans, discover a few new talents and make it home to the USA alive.  

For the first time in 3D, the Madagascar crew is doing death-defying tricks with a wild bunch of new friends. 

Both as hippo Gloria and in her many other roles, Pinkett Smith has proven to be a versatile star both on and off screen. She has amassed an impressive array of film and TV credits, including Hawthorne (the TNT medical drama that ran from 2009-2011; she also served as an executive producer), Reign Over Me (opposite Adam Sandler and Don Cheadle), and in Michael Mannís Collateral (where she had pivotal role opposite Tom Cruise and Jamie Foxx). But sheís probably best known as the take-charge Niobe in the iconic sequels, Matrix Reloaded and Matrix Revolutions.

Through her production company, 100% Womon, Pinkett Smith wrote, directed and co-starred in The Human Contract opposite Jason Clarke and Paz Vega. She also put pen to paper resulting in the New York Times bestseller Girls Hold Up This World, published in 2005.

In 2010, Pinkett Smith assumed executive producer duties for the feature film The Karate Kid, starring her son Jaden Smith and was also an executive producer on The Secret Life of Bees. Together with husband Will Smith, she created and executive produced the CW Networkís All of Us.

Beyond the medium of TV and film, the Smiths have collaborated with record industry mogul Jay-Z to produce the Broadway musical hit Fela! which earned three Tony Awards. 

Focusing on her musical interests, Pinkett Smith became the lead singer of the rock band Wicked Wisdom, which opened for Britney Spears during her Onyx Hotel Tour. Her most recent musical project, a sensual ballad entitled ďBurn,Ē was released on iTunes on Valentineís Day 2012 and was dedicated to her husband.

Born and raised in Maryland, Pinkett Smith studied dance and acting at the Baltimore School of the Arts and North Carolina School of the Arts. Her big break came when she landed a role on the long-running NBC series A Different World.

Though Madagascar 3 is her latest high-profile project, this actress/producer/writer is constantly developing or producing for various media including now a web series, Red Table Talk.

How was it channeling your inner animal?

Well, for the inner hippo in me Ė this is our third installment so itís like putting on an old jacket, shirt, or a pair of old slippers that you are very familiar with. Itís not difficult at all.

Do the animators give you pointers as to how your dance moves should be or do you have a certain strategy around your moves?

You know itís funny because while we are actually recording they have a video recorder, and they are actually recording us while we are doing the voices. 

Whatever movements we are doing at that time, they actually use them in the film Ė whether itís facial expressions, actual physical movements or what have you. So thatís always interesting to see their interpretation of what youíve done.

At least they didnít make you wear the suit with all the little sensors. 

Oh yeah. No, didnít have to wear that this time. That was for Matrix, but not for this. 

Is it easier being in a studio talking to a microphone, than it is being on set as an actress performing in a regular film?

Itís not actually. Itís difficult when itís just you and a microphone because you are so used to interacting with other actors. And yes, it can be challenging because you are there alone all of the time, and so you donít knowÖ the directors tell you, ďOh, you know, Chris did this.Ē Or, ďDavid did this, and we would love for you to try and do that.Ē But you really donít have a reality on what it is.

Chris Rock made a few comments last year about his work in animation that a black guy can play a zebra and white guy can play an Arabian prince, as well as, someone feeds you your lines and you get a million dollars. Is the process of animated film really just that easy?

It just depends on how you come and approach it. It wasnít that easy for me because I found it took me three installments to get the swing of this. And because Chris is a standup comedian, heís used to being a one-man show, right? I was so used to interacting with other people and didnít have a set or clothes, and you just have people telling you all of this stuff. Iím like, ďI donít know what Iím doing right now, and I donít know what this is. Iím just going to give what I got.Ē  I found it to be a very trying process because also you have to be able to reenact. Like if you see Gloria running, I actually have to run, Iím screaming, my voice is hoarse and Iím [heaving]. Theyíre like, ďOkay we are going to save this section because after this you arenít going to be able to talk. I was like; ďWe will do this at the end of the session.Ē It was like, ďOkay. Cool.Ē Itís a lot of work. But for somebody like Chris heís probably like, ďI do this every night.Ē

Have you seen the finishing product yet?


What are your favorite parts from the film?

I love the bear, Sophie the bear and Sacha Baron [Cohen who voices King Julien]. That is probably the most adorable aspect of the story line to me. I just I love it. I donít get enough of it. That bear is hilarious. 

What did your family think of the film?

They havenít seen it yet. They wonít see it until the premiere.

So are there obligations to see each otherís films when they open so near to each other like Men In Black 3?

We try, definitely. Itís like when you create thatís just being part of a creative group. You have to check out each otherís products.

So you donít worry that the kids might want to see Dadís film versus your film anything like that?

Oh no. No you donít have any of that.

You recently released an episode of your web series The Red Table Talk on Motherís Day and that was so empowering.

Thank you. 

A lot of what you do is empowering women. Why is that so important to you and when will the next installment happen?

Itís funny because it was really something that I did organically. I just wanted to offer it as a gift to women, especially mothers, for Motherís Day. I get asked a lot about how do I communicate with my daughter [Willow], and about my relationship with my mother [Adrienne Banfield-Jones] being that weíve had very humble beginnings as far as our relationship and what we have overcome. Because of Red Table Talks I am now in discussion about creating a television show. I have a couple of people coming after me for a television deal for it. Also a couple of web deals which are interesting. So I will continue it, and want to focus on issues in regards to relationships that will eventually and extend into other areas. Not just relationships in regards to familiar or even love relationships but also like we have the Human Trafficking Report is about to come out. I donít know if you know this, but African American women and Latino women hold the number one and number two spot as far as women who are trafficked in the United States of America. So I want to do a Red Table Talk with a fantastic beautiful woman, Rachel Lloyd, who heads the GEMS organization here in New York which works in regards to this issue. 

I have another special project coming out on June 19 with Salma Hayek that Iím doing in Spanish with regards to that particular issue as well. I want to use Red Table Talk as a forum in which you can come and be real. Itís really that simple. I think that any relationship that you have with anyone you have to be able to put it on the red table. Meaning it has to be raw. So whether you are dealing with love, with family, a social issue, or whether you are dealing with creation, it has to be raw. I think that now in this particular culture people go so hard at artists. So to be able to create a place where people and artists can come and feel safe to just be raw and not feel that they are being attacked or stripped down. Thatís the only way that we can keep our authenticity as people, as human beings, to be able to keep those genuine relationships to ourselves and to whomever we are interacting with. So to me that is the reason for the red table. 

Itís exciting. Real and raw are two very appropriate adjectives for watching it. Your openness was inspiring. 

Thank you.

Even watching Willow she displayed a lot of vulnerability and strength, and it was very interesting to see you interacting with her and kind of getting her to put words to her emotions. What was it like for you in that moment?

I have to be honest with you, I donít know which segments you watched because thereís been so many segments dispersed but there was a segment where Willow comes to the table and says, ďI just want to tell you how much you mean in my life.Ē And she bursts into tears. The Red Table Talk was over, okay. Weíve gone to the other room, and she goes, ďMommy, I still have something that I need to put on the table.Ē I was like, oh the lights, the guys, the technicians, had taken the lights. The cameras were down, but she was so adamant. Because you can see itís dark outside, right, versus when we started it was light, right? I was like, ďIím sorry guys but weíve got to put these lights back.Ē She got on the table, and I didnít know what Willow was going to say. When she started to cry I was just like, ďOkay. Just let this flow. This is her moment. This is what she wants to express.Ē But it was challenging because as a mother you want to go, ďCut. Cut it. Okay. Cut it.Ē You know what I mean? But she wanted to come to the table [with] her expression and wordsÖ the things that she said. I was in utter shock. I had no idea. Just her perspective I was just like, ďWillow, I never even thought about it like that.Ē So the red table for us was just as I meant to be because it wasÖ You guys saw, it was a bowl with questions. You know what I mean? I learned more about my daughter and my mother in that day, and I think that Willow learned a heck of a lot about us. We were at that red table for about two and a half hours. I think weíve shared with you maybe 45 minutes of that. But she has another segment thatís crazy. She has another segment thatís out of sight. You know I had to just figure out when to, but she was just amazing throughout the whole thing.

How do you balance your career and raising your children? Obviously they are top notch, how do you do it? 


The career and motherhood? 

Itís not separate. I never stop being a mother and I never stop being an artist. You understand? Which is probably why my kids are so creative, because itís not separated. You see, when Iím with my kids Iím creating, and Iím still a mom. When Iím creating Iím still a mom. I donít wear two different hats. My kids will be on the set with me. Thatís one of the reasons that I had my mom on. I had that segment where my mother was on because I was breastfeeding so she had to sit on that set. Literally, on a chair while Iím sitting up there doing karate sheís sitting up in that chair with Willow in her lap and walking Willow around because she canít go anywhere because Iím breastfeeding. None of my kids took a bottle. They would not take a bottle. Do you hear me? They couldnít leave my side for a very long time. Iím sitting up there doing Kung Fu, the movie Kung Fu, but I still have to do the mommy thing. Thereís no separation and if Iím at home with my kids and feeding them... I remember talking to [Queen] Latifah and sheís like, ďGirl I remember coming to your house and seeing you dancing in front of them kids. Feeding them kids, rapping, and signing, and all that.Ē And I said, ďThatís why, thatís how they got all that. Thatís just what you call good genes. You know what Iím saying?Ē You get with the artist you make artists. You know? So. Yeah.

One of the things about Gloria is that in all three movies she never apologizes for her appearance and how she looks. How can we use that to empower little girls as far as positive body images?

Thatís why I love Gloria Ė the idea that sheís a lot of girl and she loves it. I try to give her that sass and swagger. Itís not even about necessarily talking about it but sometimes just showing it, that itís about how you look at yourself and how you carry yourself. Iím dealing with this issue very deeply right now in dealing with the idea of romanticism in this next video that Iím doing, that comes out on June 19 in regards to human trafficking because how most women and girls get caught up in this is the dream. You get sold the dream, that whole romantic idea that you are going to find the perfect person. You are going to find the perfect situation. A lot of times we give away our power in thinking that we have to look to someone else to have acceptance for who we are. That our images of ourselves are based on how other people see us. Anytime that you do that you are going to be a very unhappy person because it varies too much. He might be happy with something that she might not be happy with. So now you are stuck in between the middle in trying to figure out, ďWell who am I supposed to be?Ē versus focusing on, ďWho are you happy with? What are you happy with?Ē At the end of the day what she thinks and what he believes has nothing to do with your existence. I tell you what, the moment that you understand your power and your beauty, your life changes. When we get out of expecting him to accept you, her to accept you, or anybody else to accept you. Okay because itís too varied. Itís too varied. But Iíll tell you whatís not varied, how you feel about yourself. And if you can carry that with you, you are going to be okay.

When did you understand your power and beauty?

Listen, thatís something that you continue toÖ because you learn it on so many levels. You find one aspectÖ I look at even my daughter Willow, and sheís way ahead of the game now than I was at her age. I can only imagine who sheís going to be as a 40-year-old woman because itís a journey. Itís a journey. Itís something that you continue. You donít get to a destination of it because the more you start to grow, and the more you start to understand, you never stop. So you never get to a place like, ďAh, here it is.Ē You might get to a place like, ďOkay, Iím finally glad to be here and be comfortable in my skin no matter what.Ē But the lessons donít stop. 

You are known for balancing business and your artistic side. You have your own production companies, and take your own ideas and actualize them. How do you know what to do from this business point of view or that creative one?

Even now Iíve learned how to separate art from commerce. There are certain things I do creatively for commerce and there are certain things that I donít do for commerce Ė like my music. I donít do it for commerce at all. I just do that to be creative, so I separate that from business completely. That is strictly art creation. Depending on what Iím trying to achieve really depends on how I will approach something from a business standpoint. Itís like, ďOkay if I want the masses, how do I get masses of people to gravitate to this particular project?Ē Then you have to strategize creatively, and you have to strategize business-wise also, like what partnerships you create or what have you. Like Fela! for instance. Jay Z came to us about that particular project. So here you have three very recognizable African-Americans that are behind this Broadway show Fela!

Great show by the way.

Right. So when you look at it from a business point of view, for us that is something that we did creatively and something that we did for business as well. We joined forces and I have to say one of the things that I love about Jay Z, and love about the relationship that I have with him business-wise. I think Roc Nation and Overbrook Entertainment [Willís company] are maybe the only two African-American entertainment groups that I know of that merge together all the time, on all kinds of different projects Ė and we have such wonderful success. Iím hoping that, that will set an example for African-Americans. We donít always have to be in competition. Thereís more power in numbers. That goes for everybody, not just African-Americans. That goes across the board for everybody. Everybody just wants to alone. Forget about the power of the groups. Iíve learned that over the years that to really be able to create alliances on a business side to encourage growth and prosperity on the whole for everybody. 

With the summertime coming up who are some of your favorite artists that you are listening to on your iPod?

Oh my gosh. Who am I listening to right now? Probably not many people you would recognize because I like a lot ofÖ. You know Iím a metal head. I like a lot of metal music. Thatís really what I listen to a lot. Or off the cuff, I love artists like Santigold or GoldFrapp. Yeah. And Pelican. Thatís kind of where Iím at right now. And I like a lot of old Police. A lot of throwbacks. What else am I listening to?

A Police song like ďRoxanneĒ would seem appropriate of course with the sex trafficking issue in mind. 

Yeah. Of course. Of course. Of course. 

A lot of people have been vocal about negative images on reality TV particularly with Basketball Wives and the Housewives. People like Star Jones and even Nicki Minaj have come forward saying how negative they are. As a mother, and as someone who is in the industry, what do you think about these shows?

Listen, I think thereís room for everything. I think what we have to focus on is balancing. Listen everybody is trying to create. Everybody is trying to make a living. Donít be mad. Donít come down on them. Talk to the people that are actually putting these shows on and ask them to balance it out. Itís not that those shows shouldnít exist. Itís not about coming down on people. Itís just about creating a balance. But also as a community, we have to be more responsible about what we are willing to watch. Now how about that? Okay? Thatís what people really donít want to talk about. Iím going to tell you something. Itís not that people try to put on programming for us that is varied. Itís not that people donít try to create movies for us that are varied. Iíll tell you what people Ė we need to be more responsible about what we are going to see. Because people only create what we are going to watch. So donít you come down on them? Folks need to be looking. Take responsibility about what you have you have on your TV and about what you are out there supporting. People need to check their own individual selves on that one.

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