If you have ever fantasized about
tickling the ivories on Sam’s piano from Casablanca, or maybe
holding Han Solo’s blaster from the original Star Wars,
or following the Yellow Brick Road, then Joe Maddalena is your
man.
Maddalena has made a passion for
the movies and collecting into a big time business – and now he has
a reality series to prove it. Hollywood Treasure, which is
airing on the SyFy Channel and just had an order for
twelve additional
episodes after its popular initial run, follows Maddalena and the
team from his business Profiles in History as they seek out some of
the legendary props from Hollywood movies.
In the first several episodes,
Maddalena and crew have tracked down such classic artifacts as the
Wicked Witch’s hat from The Wizard of Oz, the original car
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, the carpet bag from Mary Poppins,
one of the model planes that buzzed King Kong and a nearly
priceless original movie poster from the original Frankenstein.
Then once these props have been
authenticated, Profiles in History auctions these Hollywood
treasures off to fans and collectors for thousands – sometimes even
millions – of dollars.
It’s an exciting adventure for
Maddalena to track down so many iconic show biz treasures, but in a
lot of ways it was a natural progression for him.
“My parents were antique dealers,”
Maddalena explains. “I grew up on the East Coast, so when I was
twelve-thirteen years old going to their antique shows throughout
New England. I got interested in baseball cards and comic books and
post cards and stamps and coins – just kind of gravitated towards
that. In the 70s, I used to go to the library and get Who’s Who
and write away to celebrities. I used to write for a magazine
in Florida called Big Reel. And, you know, [I] just got
interested in old movies and gravitated towards it.”
It wasn’t his first career path,
though. Ironically, many years before doing a television series, Maddalena aspired to being on TV. However, as so often happens in
life, the path to TV work became somewhat crooked.
“I got in college in the early
80s,” Maddalena recalls. “I went to Pepperdine. At that time, I
couldn’t really make an income of any substance and the road towards
a career in broadcasting and journalism just seemed to be out of
reach, for any way of surviving out here. I would have had to gone
back east. My family was back there. So I just started my business
and something to do because I liked it and it just kind of took off.
That was twenty-six years ago.”
Growing up around antiques, the
field seemed a natural path for Maddalena. However, it was a
learning curve for him to get to his specialty in entertainment
memorabilia. In fact, early on he specialized in literature, sports
memorabilia and historical artifacts – all fields that he still
works on as well.
“When I first started in my
business, I did – and I still do – sell historical documents,” Maddalena explains. “I sell letters by Jefferson, Washington,
Beethoven and Mozart. In the 90s, one of my areas of specialty was
American literature. I liked Dashiell Hammett, F. Scott Fitzgerald,
James Joyce, William Faulkner. I realized most of the great movies
were based on screen adaptations of these great novels – like The
Wizard of Oz is L. Frank Baum. I got curious about the next
step. I started buying the scripts and looking for things related
to these great pieces of literature. I realized most of the
time the screenplay was written by someone other than the author of
the book.
“I just was connecting the
dots. I started buying things that were important to the authors
that I like. I started collecting movie memorabilia because it pertained to the genre that I enjoyed. People would come into my
office – at that time I was in Beverly Hills – and they’d be like,
‘Oh that’s really cool. Where’d you get that script?’ or ‘Where did
you get that photo?’ ‘Where’d you buy that prop?’ I just thought,
geez, this is a natural thing for me to start doing. So in ’96 we
held our first auction for movie memorabilia. And it’s been
fourteen years later.”
In those fourteen years – 26 for
the business in general – Maddalena built up a huge team of workers
who search out the memorabilia, work on authentication, run the
auctions, do outreach with collectors and dozens of other
functions. In fact, Maddalena acknowledges, Hollywood Treasure
actually only shows a very small portion of what goes on in the
business on a day-to-day basis.
“I have a much larger staff,” he
says. “Profiles in History is a pretty sophisticated business
model. What you are seeing on television is a piece of that
business model. You’re seeing some of my staff, but I have a
much larger staff than that, obviously, to facilitate the size of
our company. What you’re seeing on the show is some of the
pertinent people of our team who are involved in procuring goods –
who are travelling. Basically their expertise is finding
things and sourcing out leads and authenticating things.
You’re seeing that element on the show. Back at the office, we
have a whole support staff of people who process everything else
that we do. Even when you see the show, it’s a little bit more
elaborate than what you are seeing on television. That really
is just a slice of what we do.”
Maddalena picked just the right
time to get into entertainment memorabilia, because the market has
exploded over the past couple of decades. Maddalena often sells to
private collectors, but he has also worked with museums and even
theme restaurant changes. In fact, he gratefully acknowledges, in
the early years of his entertainment specialty, one of his biggest
customers was the Planet Hollywood restaurant chain.
“Planet Hollywood is one of the
reasons I got into business,” Maddalena says. “I was very fortunate
that in the ‘90s, when I started my auction business, Planet
Hollywood was cranking up their restaurant chain. I give Planet
Hollywood all the credit in the world, because they popularized the
idea of memorabilia being in a surrounding that would make people
familiar with it. They popularized the idea that you could have a
home theater. You could basically be in an entertainment
memorabilia environment. I work with them to this very day. I was
fortunate because I was one of the people they came to to source out
material, because I was based here in LA. They were definitely a
huge impetus of my business in the old days.”
In fact, Profiles in History had
gained such a high profile that Maddalena was a favorite expert on
antiquities on television for years before Hollywood Treasure.
“I have been doing television
shows for years,” Maddalena says. “I was on The Incurable
Collector. I was in a show called Missing Reward with
Stacy Keach. I produced a show called The Ultimate Auction
for Fox Television about ten years ago that starred Sarah
Ferguson and Robert Urich. I’ve done this for many, many
years. I’ve done hundreds and hundreds of appearances on
television.”
Therefore it was a pretty natural
process to create a series which focused on Profiles of History.
And, eventually one of the producers of The Incurable Collector,
which Maddalena was on for years, felt because of the good
relationship they had shared that he would like to create a series
specifically for Maddalena and his team.
“People were always like, ‘Gee,
you should have a show about your business.’” Maddalena says.
“Jerry Shevick, who was the executive in charge of Hearst
Broadcasting way back when, when I was on The Incurable
Collector, I’ve known for fifteen years. Last year he came to
me and said, ‘Hey, what are you doing?’ He basically put together
this idea for the show, based upon my life – a docu-series.”
Of course, there is a huge
difference between appearing on television shows as an expert and
having a TV crew follow you around while you’re trying to do your
job. However, Maddalena feels that this slight discomfort is
definitely worth experiencing because the show allows him to help
spread the word about collecting.
“Sure, it definitely takes a while
to get used to,” Maddalena admits. “But, I’ve got to say… and
I’ve got to make sure I get this out properly… I really feel like
for years collectors of pop culture have kind of been looked upon
as: ‘What do these people do?’ You go to Comic-Con and you’re like,
‘Who are these people?’ I’m one of these people. I’m so proud that
this show is on the air, because it celebrates all of these
collecting genres – whether it is comics, manga or whatever you’re
into.
“It’s like the ultimate
celebration that we finally have gotten the recognition that we’ve
always thought would come with these amazing areas of pop culture.
It’s an astonishing testament to the will power of the fans. It’s
all about the fans. It’s all about the people that collect the
stuff. That’s why I do the show. I want the person at home to be
able to see what we do and go along the process and encourage
collecting, because I think collecting anything is a very healthy
thing. It’s something I encourage people to do because I think in
this day and age it’s a very positive, healthy thing to do – no
matter what you collect. It’s a great alternative to a lot of other
things you could do that aren’t productive.”
However, as he says, he is one of
these people. Maddalena is a passionate collector. Which could
raise a bit of a dilemma – should he still get certain things for
himself or does he keep them for the business? However, to Maddalena, this is no real choice.
“The business always comes first,”
Maddalena says.
Still, he continues to enjoy his
collecting, it is just that his own personal collections are a bit
more specialized.
“If you come to my office, people
are always surprised because I have a very eclectic collection of
things that I keep,” Maddalena explains. “What I keep are things
that are sentimental – things that are either given to me or things
that I would maybe buy with my son. It’s all about sentimentality,
so you’ll see a very eclectic group of things. Like on one wall I
have all these vintage Christy Mathewson baseball card from the turn
of the century, because he was my favorite baseball player. Then
from my dad’s genre, I have a bunch of Mickey Mantle things. I have
things from Star Wars. It’s just really about being
surrounded by what I grew up with. That’s what I keep. It’s very
hard to compete with your clients, so the good stuff goes to them.”
He laughs heartily at the
thought. At the same time, he does acknowledge that he does have
some things that he absolutely would not sell.
“I have lots of things that are
signed to me,” he continues. “About ten years ago, my son was six
years old and we met Felix Silla, who was Twiki [the small robot
sidekick] on Buck Rogers [in the 25th Century]. He came to
one of our auctions because we actually had a Twiki and he wanted to
see it. We got to know him and he told us he had his Twiki
[costume] that he had kept all these years. At the time, my son was
the same size as Felix [Silla was 3’11”], so he thought that was the
neatest thing in the world. They became friends and Felix got Ellis
his Twiki costume, so we have that. My son is now seventeen. So we
have the Twiki costume which we would never sell, because it’s one
of our most intimate family mementos.”
However, as is illustrated in the
series, Maddalena and his team are regularly flying all over the
world in search of memorabilia which he can sell. He has long since learned that
important pieces of Hollywood history can show up in the oddest
places.
“In 1970,
the studios were broken up,” Maddalena explains. “People don’t
understand that. [It was the end of] the days of the contract
players, and the studios sold everything. 20th Century Fox
liquidated the lot. MGM liquidated the lot. MGM was RKO, Culver
Studios. All this stuff got spread all over the world. So we find
it in the oddest places imaginable, because people from all over the
world bought this stuff. We’re out there tracking it down.
“I had a guy call up from Florida
and he had bought a restaurant and he had been there for years,”
Maddalena recalls. “He called me and said, ‘When I bought this
restaurant, I had heard that one of the previous owners had some of
the things in the restaurant that were bought at the MGM auction and
they might be from movies. This guy had set pieces from Mutiny
on the Bounty and… See, what happened was in 1970, one of the
previous owners had gone to this auction and bought set decorations
and basically used them in his restaurant for decor. Thirty years
later, forty years later, the new owner had heard this and was like
‘I think these things were used in a movie.’ The person at the time
was buying them for décor. Suddenly, gee, your bar might be worth a
lot more money than you think it is. That’s one of the things.”
Of course the fact that these
items got spread out so thoroughly creates an entirely new set of
problems – beyond simply finding the things, it is vitally important
that the pieces are authenticated as having been actually used in
the movies. That is not always as easily done as said, leading to
times when Maddalena can’t always sell an item – even if they are
fairly certain it is legitimate. Unless they can be completely
certain of what they have, it is a no go.
“I’ll give you a great story,”
Maddalena says. “This lady called up about six months ago, maybe
nine months ago, and said, ‘Hey, my grandfather worked in the film
industry. He was a prop master. In our closet we have a spaceship
that I’m sure is from Flash Gordon.’ I’m like the Buster
Crabbe Flash Gordon? She’s like yeah and I’m like, oh my
God, it’s worth a fortune. So she brought it in and we did our
screen matches. It looked like the ship, but it wasn’t the ship.
It was very similar. You could tell it was studio construction. It
definitely was a real prop, but it was not Flash Gordon. So
we had it here forever.
“One day, a filmmaker comes in and
he’s like, ‘Oh, my God, where did you get that?’ I’m like, you know
what it is? He goes, ‘I haven’t seen that in fifty years.’ He
looks at it. He goes, ‘It’s not from Flash Gordon. It is
from Superman.’ I’m like Superman? He went home and
did his research and, lo and behold, Atom Man vs. Superman,
which is the first Superman movie from 1950 – it’s Lex
Luthor’s spaceship. So it was one of those things that went from
being great to being nothing to being great.”
Maddalena laughs. “Those are the
kind of stories that there’s a lot of investigation and a
lot of sleuthing and a lot of that going around. I’m very
fortunate, because being based here in Southern California and
having been here since, God, 1980, when I first moved here, I’ve
developed relationships with hundreds of people in the film
industry. I went to college with a lot of these people and grew up
with them. So when we have a question now, we’re able to go
directly to the people that made the thing. We have a lot of help
that we bring in. You’ll see that on the show, we’re constantly
bringing in experts – model makers and costumers and designers that
help us on our quest.”
Maddalena and his team have
pointed out several times on the show that a particularly fertile
ground for entertainment memorabilia is 1960s television props.
This is perfectly natural to Maddalena, who himself came of age
on
the shows. However, he also sees it as a bit of a generational
shift in the antiquities business.
“I’m a perfect example,” he says.
“I’m 49 years old. I grew up watching ‘60s television as it came
out and then reruns in the ‘70s. So I’m a ‘60s television junkie.
If I was going to buy something, I’d want something from Lost in
Space, Hogan’s Heroes, I Dream of Jeannie, Bewitched…. These
are nostalgic for me. These are what I grew up with. I think
people that are my age to ten years older than me – in that age, say
45 to 65 – this is our nostalgia. This is our childhood. These are
our memories. As we get older, we want to be surrounded by things
that are nostalgic. That’s why these things are so popular, because
we tend to be the collectors of today’s era.
“Twenty years ago, people
collected American furniture. They bought Chippendale. They bought
great pieces of china and porcelain, because that’s what their
parents collected. Our generation doesn’t collect that. That’s why
if you look at the New York art markets American furniture has
completely tanked. They’re not buying that any more. I wouldn’t
buy a Chippendale chest. I think it’s great, but it’s not what I’d
be interested in. I’d rather have a Lost in Space
spaceship. You’re seeing a generational change in the idea of
collecting. That’s a very general statement. I’m not saying that’s
for everybody, but for a lot of people, that collect this stuff,
that’s definitely a consideration.”
As someone who has built a career
around searching for iconic lost Hollywood props, of course
Maddalena has a wish list of items which would be hard – if not
impossible – to track down at this point in history. However, an
optimist, Maddalena will never say die and still hopes to someday be
able to track down some of these rarest of treasures.
“I hate to keep saying it, because
it’s like the Holy Grail but I feel like I’m beating a dead horse –
of course, [is] the ruby slippers from The Wizard of Oz,”
Maddalena says. “There are four known pairs. One of the
four pairs was stolen in 2005. The Judy Garland Museum in Grand
Rapids, Minnesota was robbed and the ruby slippers were stolen and
they are still missing. Most people don’t know the story, because
it happened the same week as Hurricane Katrina, so it didn’t get any
news at all. It kind of got buried in the papers. We’re actively
searching. There is a legend that Toto [Dorothy’s dog in the movie]
ate a pair. There’s also a legend that there was also another
pair. There could be a missing pair of ruby slippers.
“There are so many things. The
Tin Man costume I’ve heard is in Colorado. The Wicked Witch had a
broomstick that could be in Los Angeles. There are so many
artifacts that are just missing, so we’re out there trying to find
them on a daily basis. Some of the ones that we’re looking for we
don’t find, but find other ones that are just as good that we didn’t
know were missing. That’s the fun part of the show. You never know
who we’re going to meet. You never know what we’re going to find.
That part of it is really real. It’s always a surprise. It’s not
contrived. The viewer that watches the
show goes on the same ride as me. You’re genuinely coming on the
ride I go on. You’re meeting the people and getting a real idea of
who buys this and who collects this and where it comes from.”
Sometimes, even when Maddalena
is able to track down an important artifact, he is unable to get
the owner to part with it. For example in early episodes of
Hollywood Treasure, he tracked down what seemed to be one of the
original Bruce the sharks that was used in the filming of Jaws,
which is now being used as an outdoor decoration in a Southern
California used car lot. Former child actor Harvey Stevens – who
played the little devil Damien in The Omen – still has the
tricycle that his character used to knock his mother (Lee Remick)
over a banister to her certain death, but his children still use the
bike. A New York comic shop has an original 6-sheet (81” x 81”)
movie poster of Boris Karloff’s Frankenstein – which is so
rare because of its size and the fragility of paper that it would be
worth millions of dollars – but the owners were just interested in
an appraisal, not in selling the piece.
Maddalena realizes that he can’t
get everything he goes after and he takes these little setbacks
philosophically.
“I wouldn’t say disappointing,”
Maddalena says. “Once we identify where something is, we try to
keep a relationship with these people. So eventually we’ll get it,
I hope. Yeah, it’s frustrating, but there’s always something else.
That’s why I’m always pushing the team to keep looking. Keep
looking. No is not going to be acceptable. There are always other
options. Just because three doors close, the next one could be the
best door ever. It’s not getting trapped into something that’s not
available. More like let’s look at the possibilities of what is
available, what is missing. Then, what will happen is two years
later the phone will ring – like the Wicked Witch’s hat: we sourced
that out four years ago. Four years later, the Wicked Witch’s
popped up. By doing that sleuthing, we’re able to find these
things. That’s the most rewarding part of the show. Now we have
identified it, maybe next season we’ll get the Frankenstein
poster. You never know.”
Maddalena and his team are
constantly tracking down enough new treasures that there is always a
new high bar to reach. However, he does admit that he thinks he
knows which prop was the coolest piece he ran across – personally
for him, at least. Once again, it was something that just popped up
when he least expected it.
“Everybody has a personal
favorite,” Maddalena says. “A couple of years ago, this man called
us. His name was Jeff Walker and he was the publicist for Blade
Runner. Blade Runner is probably my favorite science fiction
film. He called us up and said when Blade Runner wrapped,
Warner Brothers had a tag sale on the lot and sold all the assets
from Blade Runner off to people on the lot. He bought
Deckard’s blaster – Harrison Ford’s hero blaster. That’s like the
Holy Grail of science fiction weapons. It’s amazing. He brought
that in. That to me was the coolest thing I’d ever seen. We sold
that for $265,000. It literally broke my heart to see that thing
leave. That was one of the best things ever.”
It is this kind of passion for
favorite television and film that Maddalena feels is the reason that
people are willing to spend thousands and thousands of dollars –
occasionally millions – to own a little piece of it.
“The argument I always make is why
do people spend $70 million dollars on a [Willem]
de Kooning [painting]?” Maddalena
says. “Or a Faberge Egg? Or anything? Literally, it’s pride of ownership. There’s
no difference in buying the Deckard Blade Runner gun than
paying a million dollars for a painting. It’s the exact same
thing. You are buying it based on some nostalgic or important
need. These are pop culture artifacts. People all over the world
know what Blade Runner is, know who the Wicked Witch is, know
who The Terminator is. These objects being made are works of
art.
“People are now realizing that
culturally filmmaking is important,” he continues. “It’s an
important part of our society. It influences how we dress, who we
aspire to be, our weight. For good or bad, it does. It influences
everything we do. So people are starting to realize that culturally
these are really important. The important artifacts like something
from Star Wars or the Deckard Blade Runner gun, these
are important things. An Aston Martin from I think Goldfinger
just sold for $4.7 million. But, you know, there are cars that
sell for $10 million that have nothing to do with film. It’s just
the recognition that this stuff is starting to see its day.”
And, in the meantime, ironically
Joe Maddalena years ago gave up the idea of being on television,
only to end up back on TV by following his career into a totally
different direction. Looking back, Maddalena sees the irony in his
career path.
“Oh, absolutely,” he laughs.
“This is a bit surreal. It is a bit surreal. But again, every day
I get ten to thirty emails from people who are so appreciative and
so happy about the show and have such great comments and memories of
things that were important to them. It makes it all worthwhile.
There is no great Hollywood museum. There’s never been one built.
So it’s like I’ve saved these things from the trash.
“We’ve built people’s awareness
now where this is a very active area and growing. Probably one of
the fastest growing areas of collecting in the world – because these
things are not manufactured. It’s not a baseball card, a comic book
or a stamp, where something is made millions of and you’re buying it
based solely on rarity of condition. This is a totally different
thing. Most of these things are one of a kind.
“It’s very surreal,” Maddalena
concludes. “I’m happy to be able to do this. I’m honored. I’m
doing it for every collector out there who is like me. For every
little kid who was twelve years old, who grew up with their comic
books in their bedroom, who wanted to be a superhero or whatever
they wanted to be. It’s like, hey, you know what? We won. We got
our show.”
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